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here is the key phrase here "im worried might be a sign of me actually parroting"

9:25 PM

so here is what you should do

I know my host was super paranoid about parroting when he wasn't at all

stop everything for a moment

9:25 PM

take a deep breathe

9:26 PM

for a moment let go of all preconcieved notions

9:26 PM

neither believing or disbelieving

9:26 PM

and reflect upon your actions as honestly with yourself as you can possibly be

9:27 PM

and then you will know if you were parroting or not

I would also suggest giving it some time. I know Im Not parroting because occasionally Hibiki does things unexpected or that I don't want her to do.

parroting is not a bad thing

Like the other night I really wanted to talk to her, but she was to tired and kept refusing.

parroting on day 1 is especially not a bad thing

Well, your thinking and speaking are kinda closely tied. Like, most people use language for both. So mouthing words may just be some early possession.

10:20 PM

There's many things it could be other than parroting. Akagi's step by step earlier is probs your best bet

Parroting isn't a good idea as it can set the foundation for bad habits/practices.

12:01 AM

On day one it's a bad idea, but maybe in the future when you have forcing down, give it a go.

But why parrot if your tulpa can talk?

although I've never parroted, from what I've heard it's not that bad as long as you make sure it's clear to you when you are parroting

12:02 AM

some people have gotten pretty uncertain as to whether they were hearing their tulpa or parroting them

I think using parroting as personality forcing is a pretty neet idea (edited)

It was considered so in like 2012.

12:05 AM

Then parrotnoia became a thing as the community started fearing for if their tulpas were real or not.

12:05 AM

Moving forward from late 2013/2014, we simply treat parroting as an optional forcing method that can lead to problems with doubt later in the vocality process.

12:06 AM

Lumi did something the tulpa community unnecessarily attributes to parroting before creating Lucilyn, imagining her talking and how she'd react to stuff before even creating her.

12:06 AM

It was just personality forcing, though.

I feel like worry over parroting predated parroting as a technique

Parroting is different.

12:06 AM

You sure?

Maybe not the word parroting specifically, but I'm reasonably confident in that

The community was worried about parroting, and then decided parroting was a legitimate forcing method? And then decided parroting was actually not good?

12:07 AM

Well, I'm sure doubt on if the tulpa was speaking or not was already there.

12:07 AM

Parroting is a unique fear we created though.

12:07 AM

There's a difference in "Is it really my tulpa? Not just my mind playing tricks?" and "AM I THE ONE SPEAKING TO MYSELF???"

Parroting is basically a monkey's paw.

Tends to be.

I think the two are kind of bundled up with one another. Parroting may be a unique word, but I think it stems from that deeper more universal fear that almost everyone will encounter.

It's still possible for it to help. (edited)

I did parroting as personality forcing

That's why you get a lucky rabbit's foot instead, and force without parroting. (edited)

Hmm.

What if you try and take my lucky rabbit's paw?

they do say those are more lucky while still attached to the rabbit

Parroting isn't a problem if you don't have issues with doubt. It goes a step further than imagination personality forcing by trying to teach your brain to sound like someone else in the process.

12:09 AM

But more often than not it probably just exacerbates doubt in the final steps of vocality.

that's why it's important to make sure it's clear to you when you're parroting

meh i think its much better to just parrot the thing and not worry about it than it is to parrot it and then go through lengths of bs trying to convince yourself you never parroted or just staring at it until it does something

12:11 AM

most problems with doubts root from making belief

12:12 AM

and really learning the difference between parroting and not parroting generally requires at least actively doing it a few times for a comparison

12:14 AM

what puzzles is me how people still struggle with this idea: that you will legit know when your tulpa is legit vocal, or at least have a really hard time explaining it as something else

12:14 AM

it should seem real enough to be plausible to you, or you probably still need to force some more

Hence it's best to say to people asking if their tulpa spoke that they'll "know when it happens."

seems like a silly question to ask someone else dont you think?

Certainly.

Hi, I've seen alot of research saying tulpas should not be based off of real people (living or dead) but what about already existing cartoon characters?

I would not recommend that either. Basing a tulpa off of an existing character (be it a human or not) has problems associated with it.

Ah, okay thank you very much! I was worried because my brother is trying to make one as well and we didn't know if cartoon or any fictional character was suggested

fictional/cartoon characters have issues related to identity

I think the worse potential problem is that of expectation and dismissal of behaviors outside of the expected ones.

@HORRORLUV Ah, oh and one more thing, Would I be able not to have my tulpa be an already existing cartoon character but still have it with a cartoon apperence while still being able to feel things like clothes or hair or skin?

they aren't physically constrained, so I think so

9:15 AM

so long as you can impose that

9:15 AM

sure

@HORRORLUV Thank you!

Well, about Tulpa based on fictional character, I think it's fine thought

11:43 AM

You just need to tell your Tulpa that they only has same appearance

11:43 AM

I think it's fine too

[But if what your host really wants is that character, and you no longer want to be that character it can cause a disagreement. Not that all disagreements are inherently bad. But I'm not going to be something I don't want to be.]

11:59 AM

But that's a problem for the host not the tulpa

Yep you're right

It's good to have rational expectations.

Rational expectations?

I would assume rational expectations as in your tulpa will not actually be this character as much as you might want them to be but they can look like it.

Yep you're right

12:16 PM

My Tulpa's appearance actually based on fictional character

12:17 PM

But her personality is completely different from the original character

12:17 PM

But that's why I love her

Indeed. Mine started out even going by the name of the characters in question. After awhile(or in Auroras case almost immediately) they wanted to change their form to something that was theirs and no one elses.

Woww

12:22 PM

My Tulpa prefer the name and form I gave to her

Aurora doesn't even have a set form really to be honest. Shoulder length red hair sharp facial features slender frame generally. But everything else changes day to day. Sometimes hour to hour even. Unless she is in a mood and then it's completely up in the air. Not even humanoid for instance. Sweetie has at least chosen something and went with it. The most she has done is change her hair color and clothing/jewelry.

Well... That was something

12:34 PM

It depends on your imagination skill maybe?

No idea. That's just how Aurora has always been. Used to be a lot more all over the place. But recently she has been at least keeping to a theme.

12:36 PM

Mostly...

Oh...

12:37 PM

Well, Rachel like to wear stripes t-shirt and short pants thought (edited)

With my tulpa and the character in question, I'd like for it to have the same apperence and voice but a completely different personality, but it's diffucult in a house with 8 adults. I'm turning 14 next month and given I'm still young I like to use the free hours I have to my advantege but it's difficult when multiple interruptions are affecting that. I do stay up late most of the time and would do it when everyone's asleep but I don't want my tulpa to come out wonky due to being too tired. Any advice?

I doubt your sleep style would affect your tulpa like that

5:55 PM

don't worry so much

maybe try to find some free time during the day to interact with your tulpas, even if it's only like during weekends or something

Do you live somewhere where you can't just... go outside for a while?

@Felight not without an adult seeing me and asking if I'm still, "Working on summoning demons" they get concerned because they're heavy Christians, which I have nothing against but when I mention I'm trying to make a tulpa, they see it as Satan worshipping and immediately say it's the devil trying to enter my mind

you can't just go outside on a walk?

@AwfulLottaAwfulThings Tell them you gave up and continue to lie about it. "I'm enjoying the outdoors."

6:01 PM

All interaction with your tulpa can be in your mind. You don't have to speak out loud.

@Smeer And I never do. I'm still just beginning to make my tulpa but when I'm staring at one space trying to vision him, my family sees it as me silently speaking to the underworld

Well enough